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Do you have to be a 'math person' or a 'science person' to be successful in STEM?

I understand that most anyone can major most anything if they work hard and are persistent. However, it is clear that some of my peers are much quicker with learning concepts within STEM than I am, or it feels like their minds are just wired to do mental math or calculate or work through quantitative reasoning with ease and grace. It takes me a lot more explaining and thinking to understand some concepts in my math and chemistry classes and I admittedly still use a calculator double check my multiplication and other arithmetic. I admittedly am very talented in other ways--working with people, thinking outside of the box, writing, and other qualitative skills-- but does this mean I'm doomed to only be mediocre in a STEM field, even if I manage to get the degree? #skills #choosing-a-major #success #stem #mathematics #science

Thank you comment icon I'm just a student too, but I feel like I should reply to this, because I think you need a bit more confidence in yourself! STEM people have always had the stereotype of not being particularly people-smart, yet it's something so important to have if you want to get the job you want and spread your research and/or message. I'm personally pretty terrified about that part, because I don't think I'm very good at that kind of thing. Thinking outside the box is exactly what drives STEM and literally everything else humans could possibly accomplish forward! Writing is vital in this field, too. Lily
Thank you comment icon Frankly, the things you say you are good at are the kinds of things STEM needs, but I'm betting lots of the students in your classes (or like me), no matter how math/science-inclined they are, are going to be lacking. If you work your butt off and earn that degree, you're probably gonna leave a bunch of the others looking mediocre in comparison. Lily
Thank you comment icon If it helps, I felt a lot like that when I went to a summer math program while in high school. Though math had always been one of my better subjects, I suddenly felt like a noob in comparison to everyone else there. I learned in time, though, that there wasn't much of a difference between me and the walking calculators. Everyone struggled with some of the concepts, no matter how math-smart they were. Everybody had to work hard. Maybe written word came easier to me than crafting advanced equations, but I still belonged. You still belong. Lily
Thank you comment icon You've probably already heard this before, but you can try doing your best to study in a way that accommodates the way you think, if the way everyone else is learning this material doesn't vibe well with you. You said you're good at thinking outside the box, so do just that to find the strategies that work the best! I know you can do it! (Finally, end of message! Had to split it up because of character limit.) Lily

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Jared’s Answer, CareerVillage.org Team

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TL;DR: No, you don't need to worry about this at all and should forge ahead with your interest despite this concern you have. You don't need to be a math or science person (at least not in the way you're defining it in your question), for two reasons:

  1. "STEM" may sound like a small set of topics in school, but it refers to an unfathomably huge set of industries and occupations, many of which you can definitely thrive in without being what you currently consider a "math person" or "science person"
  2. Even if you're not a "science person" or "math person" now, you can certainly become the math or science person you need to be in order to thrive in the occupation of your choice (with rare exception).

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Point #1: STEM is huge

I think it will help to point out that what educators call "STEM" corresponds to a set of industries and occupations that is absolutely huge: pharmaceutical research, computer programming, building bridges, managing fleets of giant ships, architecting buildings, studying the cosmos, nursing, managing technology product development cycles, pharmacology, database management, designing motorcycles, and about a million other jobs (literally). You can't thrive in these jobs without learning about a variety of science and math topics, but that doesn't mean that you need to immediately have an intuition for those topics from day 1. And not all math or science topics will be necessary for your occupation. For example, as a programmer I end up using a lot of logic, a lot of reading comprehension, a lot of problem solving, and a lot of interpersonal communication skills. But algebra plays only a minimal role and calculus is never used in the kind of work I do. But another programmer in a different context might use a completely different set of skills. If you can be a little more specific about which specific sub-sections of STEM interest you, we'd be happy to share more specific information about what skills you do (and don't) need.




Point #2: You can become a "math and science person"

What Lily H. said in the comments on your question is dead-on. I think you're actually facing a much more serious risk about something critically important: you must not fall victim to a fixed (entity) mindset. Basically, you're in one of three states right now: you're either...

  1. One of a very very small number of people who suffer from a disability such as discalculia, or
  2. One of a very very small number of people who have a savant-level math and science intuition that nobody else will ever match like Einstein, or
  3. You're basically like 99% of the rest of the population who has to, and can, learn math and science concepts the hard way.

Based on what you wrote in your question, you're clearly in the third group. So I'd say normally that you should just continue to have faith and be persistent and seek out teachers who are willing to experiment and find the right methods to help you learn efficiently.


But in your case, I want to encourage you to watch out for something potentially dangerous. Over the past 50 years, researchers (such as Dr. Carol Dweck, one of the titans of psychology) have demonstrated definitively that there is a much bigger factor that affects your academic success in subjects like math than genetics, than early childhood education, and even than instruction: whether you have a "fixed mindset" or a "growth mindset". Dr. Dweck and others have shown that if a young person believes that intelligence is "fixed" or "innate" or that some subjects just aren't accessible to them (e.g., "I'm not a math person"), then they dramatically underperform peers who believe that intelligence is "developed" or can be "improved with practice" or that any subject can be learned. And this effect is massive. Not only that, it's completely reversible! Psychologists have found that students who start in a fixed mindset can adopt a growth mindset within just hours, and see results nearly immediately. It's exceptionally powerful, and I bring it up because I want to encourage you to remember that you must have a growth mindset at all times if you plan to build the skills you need to thrive. I sense in your question someone who is fundamentally confident and optimistic and a great communicator. If you can bring that together with a growth mindset, you will truly thrive. What Lily H. said is right: use your creativity to think outside the box. And don't forget that the only thing that can make you "bad at math or science" is believing that you're bad at math or science. I believe in you! Source for my perspective: I run a technology nonprofit (CareerVillage.org), am a programmer, and hire programmers and others who would qualify as STEM professionals.


Source for the data on growth mindsets: The Wikipedia article on Professor Dweck and Professor Dweck's website and the research article that covers how growth mindsets work.

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Kris’s Answer

STEM is Science, Technology, Engineering and Math. So, even if you have not graduated in any of the STEM fields. you must at least know the fundamentals in them.

For Math, you need to know Algebra 2, and Geometry at the minimum.

For Science, know the basics of Physics, Chemistry and Biology. Example: Bio-Chemistry = Bio+Chem but also involves elements of Physics. Physicist= Physics + elements of Chemistry.

For Technology and Engineering, it would be great if you knew about Java( a computer language). Tech and Engineering are fields where you need multi level knowledge like how to build gears/buildings/robots/machines/websites and now a days Computer Science is ubiquitous and in tech and engineering fields, learning how to code seems to be one of the things that is highly recommended.

GOOD NEWS: There are so many sites where you can learn Java or Python for free like codeacademy, pluralsight etc. Check out your local libraries if they offer free computer language courses either at the center or online.


Hope this helps!

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Josh’s Answer

As the other answers noted STEM is massive, so asking if you are going to succeed in a STEM field is incredibly broad. I would argue that the skills that you described make you well suited to working in a number of STEM - like fields.

For example I work as a business analyst. My job is to work with the end users of software to figure out what they need, they translate that into requirements that I give to the software engineers. I ended up in this job because I was ok at coding, but I was much better than most of my computer science peers at working with people. In all of the STEM fields eventually the STEM is going to have to interact with people, and if you have some knowledge of the technical aspects, but are also able to think outside the box and work with people then you are going to be tremendously valuable.

Also, as noted in some of the comments and other answers you could almost certainly get good in any of the STEM fields given enough time and work.
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Priyanka’s Answer

Not at all. You don't have to worry about having a background in Science or Math necessarily. STEM offers a variety of courses and depending on what interests you the most , you can pick up a major. Although I do see why anyone would have that concern before moving forward with that decision, but know that it isn't a requirement by any means.
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