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James Constantine Frangos
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Good Day Roman!
THE QUESTION:-
How Old Were You When You Started Your Career?
MY TAKE ON THIS QUESTION:-
In one way when you consider life as a young toddler, I was helping my father glue labels onto his proprietary bottles of liqueurs. It was a desired pursuit of mine, going to work with Dad, rather than attending kindergarten. I used to cry bitterly when Dad dropped me off at kindergarten.
Ten or so years later my father wanted us to move to Sydney so he could set as up another liqueur factory. There I did form 3 and 4 at Mosman High. There the kids were from rich families,
but their behavior was cruel and rough as guts.
New South Wales students also had less mathematical and scientific acumen, so I found that not much effort generated academic awards for me in science. I had proved to my parents that I had academic acumen, and had the potential to excel at science.
My parents had bought me telescopes as presents. Impressionable me then wanted to
be an astronomer. My obsessive-compulsive nature ensured that I often observed the
heavens with my telescopes.
I formed a friendship with school associates with their own telescopes. It was not long before I got to forming an astronomy club at the rough, tough, and tumble school of Mosman High.
After two years our family moved back to Queensland, because my father had finished
setting up the liqueur factory. My parents decided to enroll me at Saint Peter's
Lutheran College, because they had a Physics class.
The Physics teacher taught us kids to program computers. The future looked sewn up for me. I had started building larger telescopes, which were quite expensive. I was restricted with available funds, and had to grind the larger curved telescope mirrors by hand.
I used to visit a retired Dutch policeman who taught me how to grind big mirrors
accurate to one-millionth of an inch. Soon my uncle had a heart attack that killed
him at just 38 years of age. That surely made waves with me because I did not know
what to do!
God has the power to intervene in lives, and God had taken Michael, my uncle! What was I to expect? That dad would be next ... because uncle Michael was his brother. They were both Greek, and had familial hypercholesterolemia, leading to early deaths from heart attacks.
God did not stop there! In 1960 my uncle had worked with Professor Colin Masters, a
biochemist and a researcher at Queensland University. Colin turned up at our new
Brisbane university lecturing in biochemistry. I liked his style of teaching, and left the STEM subjects for someone else.
I majored under Professor Masters. As I had expected, my dad died next. I had enough of early bereavement by that time and I kept studying nutrition. I became a dietitian in 1988 when I was 31 years old.
I was fortunate enough to get instructed in computer programming in 1972, grade 11 Physics class. In 1994, I was consulting patients at an outback hospital in Miles, Queensland. A client got angry. Not at me, but at other dietitians who had given her a one-day sample menu. Her situation had not changed because she still did not know what to eat for most of the time!
I told the lady thank you for her feedback! It was then that I commenced writing
nutrition education software as a dietitian in the Australian outback. I would see
clients by day and program computers by night.
I wrote DIET WIZARD and started using the software in my nutritional practice. I would take the nutrition education software which I had created the night before to work with me on the health department laptop.
The Australian Aboriginal clients really liked being given actual food menus, instead of one-day sample menus which had left them in the dark! The computer printed food shopping lists for the personalized food menus. The software was not just for obese patients, but also diabetics, because it had carbohydrate-apportioned meals.
I added more to the software to cater for other different medical problems in clients. For instance the software could scan the Australian nutrient database NUTTAB 95 for foods low in a certain substance. For instance in Chinchilla I consulted a renal failure patient who wanted a list of low phosphate foods to eat.
It was not long before the health department executives wanted a free copy of my software. The Chinchilla Hospital nursing manager wanted a free copy. She got nothing! Not content in sitting still I started a YouTube Studio page with 1,400 movie shorts, mostly of the Diet Wizard software in action.
https://www.youtube.com/user/yimi90125/video
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE'S OPINION ON THIS QUESTION:-
The age at which individuals begin their careers can vary significantly based on several factors, including education, personal circumstances, and the specific career path they choose.
Education Pathways: Many people start their careers after completing a certain level of education. For instance, high school graduates may enter the workforce at around 18 years old, while those pursuing higher education might start working in their field between the ages of 22 to 25 after completing a bachelor’s degree.
Job Corps Program: In the context of Job Corps, which is a program aimed at helping young people aged 16 to 24 gain skills and find employment, participants often begin their career journeys during or shortly after their time in the program. This means that many individuals involved in Job Corps may start their careers as early as 16 years old if they enter the program right after high school or even before graduation.
Career Choices: The type of career one chooses also influences when they start working. Some fields require extensive training or education (like medicine or engineering), delaying entry into the workforce until later in life. Conversely, vocational careers or entry-level positions in retail or hospitality may allow for earlier entry.
Personal Circumstances: Individual circumstances such as family responsibilities, economic conditions, and personal aspirations can also affect when someone begins their career. Some may need to work part-time jobs during high school to support themselves or their families.
In summary, while there is no single answer to how old someone was when they started their career due to these varying factors, many individuals typically begin working between the ages of 16 and 25 depending on their educational background and personal situations.
Probability of Correctness: I believe the probability that this answer is correct is high (approximately 95%).
Top 3 Authoritative Sources Used in Answering this Question
U.S. Department of Labor (DOL): This government agency provides comprehensive data on employment trends, educational requirements for various careers, and statistics regarding youth employment programs like Job Corps.
National Center for Education Statistics (NCES): NCES offers detailed reports on educational attainment levels among different demographics and how these relate to employment outcomes.
Job Corps Official Website: The official site provides specific information about the program’s goals, participant demographics, and typical age ranges for those entering various career paths through its services.
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|==================THE AUSTRALIAN OUTBACK DIETITIAN===================|
|==============Programming For Your Nutrition Education======================|
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THE QUESTION:-
How Old Were You When You Started Your Career?
MY TAKE ON THIS QUESTION:-
In one way when you consider life as a young toddler, I was helping my father glue labels onto his proprietary bottles of liqueurs. It was a desired pursuit of mine, going to work with Dad, rather than attending kindergarten. I used to cry bitterly when Dad dropped me off at kindergarten.
Ten or so years later my father wanted us to move to Sydney so he could set as up another liqueur factory. There I did form 3 and 4 at Mosman High. There the kids were from rich families,
but their behavior was cruel and rough as guts.
New South Wales students also had less mathematical and scientific acumen, so I found that not much effort generated academic awards for me in science. I had proved to my parents that I had academic acumen, and had the potential to excel at science.
My parents had bought me telescopes as presents. Impressionable me then wanted to
be an astronomer. My obsessive-compulsive nature ensured that I often observed the
heavens with my telescopes.
I formed a friendship with school associates with their own telescopes. It was not long before I got to forming an astronomy club at the rough, tough, and tumble school of Mosman High.
After two years our family moved back to Queensland, because my father had finished
setting up the liqueur factory. My parents decided to enroll me at Saint Peter's
Lutheran College, because they had a Physics class.
The Physics teacher taught us kids to program computers. The future looked sewn up for me. I had started building larger telescopes, which were quite expensive. I was restricted with available funds, and had to grind the larger curved telescope mirrors by hand.
I used to visit a retired Dutch policeman who taught me how to grind big mirrors
accurate to one-millionth of an inch. Soon my uncle had a heart attack that killed
him at just 38 years of age. That surely made waves with me because I did not know
what to do!
God has the power to intervene in lives, and God had taken Michael, my uncle! What was I to expect? That dad would be next ... because uncle Michael was his brother. They were both Greek, and had familial hypercholesterolemia, leading to early deaths from heart attacks.
God did not stop there! In 1960 my uncle had worked with Professor Colin Masters, a
biochemist and a researcher at Queensland University. Colin turned up at our new
Brisbane university lecturing in biochemistry. I liked his style of teaching, and left the STEM subjects for someone else.
I majored under Professor Masters. As I had expected, my dad died next. I had enough of early bereavement by that time and I kept studying nutrition. I became a dietitian in 1988 when I was 31 years old.
I was fortunate enough to get instructed in computer programming in 1972, grade 11 Physics class. In 1994, I was consulting patients at an outback hospital in Miles, Queensland. A client got angry. Not at me, but at other dietitians who had given her a one-day sample menu. Her situation had not changed because she still did not know what to eat for most of the time!
I told the lady thank you for her feedback! It was then that I commenced writing
nutrition education software as a dietitian in the Australian outback. I would see
clients by day and program computers by night.
I wrote DIET WIZARD and started using the software in my nutritional practice. I would take the nutrition education software which I had created the night before to work with me on the health department laptop.
The Australian Aboriginal clients really liked being given actual food menus, instead of one-day sample menus which had left them in the dark! The computer printed food shopping lists for the personalized food menus. The software was not just for obese patients, but also diabetics, because it had carbohydrate-apportioned meals.
I added more to the software to cater for other different medical problems in clients. For instance the software could scan the Australian nutrient database NUTTAB 95 for foods low in a certain substance. For instance in Chinchilla I consulted a renal failure patient who wanted a list of low phosphate foods to eat.
It was not long before the health department executives wanted a free copy of my software. The Chinchilla Hospital nursing manager wanted a free copy. She got nothing! Not content in sitting still I started a YouTube Studio page with 1,400 movie shorts, mostly of the Diet Wizard software in action.
https://www.youtube.com/user/yimi90125/video
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE'S OPINION ON THIS QUESTION:-
The age at which individuals begin their careers can vary significantly based on several factors, including education, personal circumstances, and the specific career path they choose.
Education Pathways: Many people start their careers after completing a certain level of education. For instance, high school graduates may enter the workforce at around 18 years old, while those pursuing higher education might start working in their field between the ages of 22 to 25 after completing a bachelor’s degree.
Job Corps Program: In the context of Job Corps, which is a program aimed at helping young people aged 16 to 24 gain skills and find employment, participants often begin their career journeys during or shortly after their time in the program. This means that many individuals involved in Job Corps may start their careers as early as 16 years old if they enter the program right after high school or even before graduation.
Career Choices: The type of career one chooses also influences when they start working. Some fields require extensive training or education (like medicine or engineering), delaying entry into the workforce until later in life. Conversely, vocational careers or entry-level positions in retail or hospitality may allow for earlier entry.
Personal Circumstances: Individual circumstances such as family responsibilities, economic conditions, and personal aspirations can also affect when someone begins their career. Some may need to work part-time jobs during high school to support themselves or their families.
In summary, while there is no single answer to how old someone was when they started their career due to these varying factors, many individuals typically begin working between the ages of 16 and 25 depending on their educational background and personal situations.
Probability of Correctness: I believe the probability that this answer is correct is high (approximately 95%).
Top 3 Authoritative Sources Used in Answering this Question
U.S. Department of Labor (DOL): This government agency provides comprehensive data on employment trends, educational requirements for various careers, and statistics regarding youth employment programs like Job Corps.
National Center for Education Statistics (NCES): NCES offers detailed reports on educational attainment levels among different demographics and how these relate to employment outcomes.
Job Corps Official Website: The official site provides specific information about the program’s goals, participant demographics, and typical age ranges for those entering various career paths through its services.
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|=========================God Bless You, Richly!===========================|
|===========================James Constantine===========================|
|==================THE AUSTRALIAN OUTBACK DIETITIAN===================|
|==============Programming For Your Nutrition Education======================|
|==========================~ Since 1972!================================|
✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯✯
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Michelle’s Answer
Hello, Roman !
This is an awesome question because even though it's interesting to know when a variety of people started their careers, it would be fun but not bear anything for your experience.
As an actress, I began at age 18 and started getting paid for it at age 19. I attribute being able to get paid for it that fast due to the networking element as a college student. The college experience brings like minded people together and a great deal of sharing of information that is instrumental for getting the career started. Acting is as unconventional a career that one can have, so it's a constant hit and miss for work. Persistence and dedication pay off for any career.
In acting, one is considered professional once they start getting paid for it, but whatever career you go into, always make it part of yourself. Even if you don't get a job or work right away, focus on what more you can do to increase your chances.
You can also be successful in your career if you refuse to let anyone or anything discourage you. Keep at whatever you love doing and it will pay off for you in the future.
This is an awesome question because even though it's interesting to know when a variety of people started their careers, it would be fun but not bear anything for your experience.
As an actress, I began at age 18 and started getting paid for it at age 19. I attribute being able to get paid for it that fast due to the networking element as a college student. The college experience brings like minded people together and a great deal of sharing of information that is instrumental for getting the career started. Acting is as unconventional a career that one can have, so it's a constant hit and miss for work. Persistence and dedication pay off for any career.
In acting, one is considered professional once they start getting paid for it, but whatever career you go into, always make it part of yourself. Even if you don't get a job or work right away, focus on what more you can do to increase your chances.
You can also be successful in your career if you refuse to let anyone or anything discourage you. Keep at whatever you love doing and it will pay off for you in the future.
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Dennis’s Answer
Hello Roman. That's an interesting question.
Since most of us don't know what we will (be/do) when we "grow up," it's hard to say when we started. Let'sthing about somebody about 8 years old. Do they like to play with toy trucks and such? Or maybe they are more keen about computer games. Or sports. Or music. You could have an adult career in any of these areas.
Does this kid like to take things apart? Is he/she interested in how things work. Do you see where I am going with this?
Everything you are doing now might be a part of what you do in the future. So.....learn it well. If you like doing that thing, remember it; get better at it. If you don't like it.....think about why you don't like it. Is it something that people have to do in their jobs? Now you have to decide: I WILL get better, even if I don't enjoy it/ I'll never do that again! Your choice.
So, for me, I think I was about 10 years old. I learned to fix my bicycle. I helped my father do things like paint, do carpentry, do maintenance on the family car and so on. I delivered newspapers and mowed lawns to earn money. I grew up on a family farm, so I learned how to drive a tractor and operate machines. As a teen, I worked for one summer on a sawmill.
All this time, I attended public schools. I was fortunate to attend college and earn a degree in engineering. When did I start being an engineer? I think it was back when I was learning to fix that bicycle. How could I know then what I would do?
Your opportunities, Roman, are just as wide open at this point. Take advantage of every class and every project you encounter. You never know what will fall in front of you. But, when it does fall, you need to be able to pick it up. Good luck Roman!
Since most of us don't know what we will (be/do) when we "grow up," it's hard to say when we started. Let'sthing about somebody about 8 years old. Do they like to play with toy trucks and such? Or maybe they are more keen about computer games. Or sports. Or music. You could have an adult career in any of these areas.
Does this kid like to take things apart? Is he/she interested in how things work. Do you see where I am going with this?
Everything you are doing now might be a part of what you do in the future. So.....learn it well. If you like doing that thing, remember it; get better at it. If you don't like it.....think about why you don't like it. Is it something that people have to do in their jobs? Now you have to decide: I WILL get better, even if I don't enjoy it/ I'll never do that again! Your choice.
So, for me, I think I was about 10 years old. I learned to fix my bicycle. I helped my father do things like paint, do carpentry, do maintenance on the family car and so on. I delivered newspapers and mowed lawns to earn money. I grew up on a family farm, so I learned how to drive a tractor and operate machines. As a teen, I worked for one summer on a sawmill.
All this time, I attended public schools. I was fortunate to attend college and earn a degree in engineering. When did I start being an engineer? I think it was back when I was learning to fix that bicycle. How could I know then what I would do?
Your opportunities, Roman, are just as wide open at this point. Take advantage of every class and every project you encounter. You never know what will fall in front of you. But, when it does fall, you need to be able to pick it up. Good luck Roman!
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Angel’s Answer
Hi there! I started my career in my 22 age, after completing education at 21 age. You’re taking great steps by being at Job Corps—keep building your skills and experiences!