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John
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Is what you do meaningful to you?
I am 22 and looking forward to getting my welding certification up to G6. One day I want to go underwater as an underwater welder because it is one of the most lucrative trades on the market. Is there anybody here that can give me some advice on what to do after I complete my Jobcorps training? I don't know whether to go into the military as a Navy Diver or begin advanced training first and then move into. Is there a path to skip military service and move directly into the private sector i.e. offshore oil rigs or harbor maintenance?
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Cindi Brewer
Marketing/Finance
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Hawk Point, MO
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Cindi’s Answer
John,
Words of wisdom I have always passed on to my kids: Find something you love and do it with all your heart. If you do this, you will never 'work' a day in your life (because you are doing something you are passionate about).
Underwater welding has many risks and not something that I would enter in solely for the sake of being lucrative, but also because it's something you are passionate about. Are you already certified in SCUBA? Do you enjoy it? Have you purchased or used welding equipment? Do you enjoy it?
God has gifted each of us with very unique giftings and talents. My advice would be to seek those things out to ensure your direction aligns with your talents and passions. Sometimes those closest to us can clearly see gifts, talents, and leanings that we are not even aware of.
Also, with the inherent risks associated with this field, I would seek out the most qualified training available. If you opt to go the Navy route, it seems you would not only have the reward of serving your country, but you may also gain excellent training without taking on as much debt as you might from the private sector.
My advice would be to enter into this decision prayerfully so you can move forward with wisdom and understanding. I've included some next steps that you may want to consider as you move forward.
All the very best to you in your future!
Identify all of the components (not just money) that are driving your leaning toward underwater welding.
Speak to trusted and close family, friends and mentors to get their input on what they see as your strengths, weaknesses, and passions.
Identify people that have served in this capacity and ask for their input to get better understanding of the training, the actual day-to-day of the profession, etc.
Once equipped with facts, make a list of the pros and cons (both long and short term) of being in this profession.
If not already certified, get SCUBA certified. If you have not done any welding, find someone locally that can let you work alongside them on a small project or get your own equipment and do some small projects. This will provide insight (on a small scale) if you will enjoy this type of work.
Words of wisdom I have always passed on to my kids: Find something you love and do it with all your heart. If you do this, you will never 'work' a day in your life (because you are doing something you are passionate about).
Underwater welding has many risks and not something that I would enter in solely for the sake of being lucrative, but also because it's something you are passionate about. Are you already certified in SCUBA? Do you enjoy it? Have you purchased or used welding equipment? Do you enjoy it?
God has gifted each of us with very unique giftings and talents. My advice would be to seek those things out to ensure your direction aligns with your talents and passions. Sometimes those closest to us can clearly see gifts, talents, and leanings that we are not even aware of.
Also, with the inherent risks associated with this field, I would seek out the most qualified training available. If you opt to go the Navy route, it seems you would not only have the reward of serving your country, but you may also gain excellent training without taking on as much debt as you might from the private sector.
My advice would be to enter into this decision prayerfully so you can move forward with wisdom and understanding. I've included some next steps that you may want to consider as you move forward.
All the very best to you in your future!
Cindi recommends the following next steps:
Thank you, Cindi for the advice.
John
Bob Moore
Supply Chain, Energy. Oil & Gas, Leadership, Management, Careers Overseas
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The Woodlands, Texas
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Bob’s Answer
Well done John, great that you are qualifying with a great skill - one that will be needed for a very long time.
The military track is a good one - however you may be pushed into another career based on their needs - so benefits and drawbacks.
I was in Oil & Gas for many years and welders were always on site - either building sites, doing modifications or repair and maintenance. Most oil companies especially the big ones do not employ them directly - they are employed by the big contractors, the specialists.
Look at companies like KBR, Black and Veach and the big engineering firms - and work applications aggressively with them - be persistent and you will get picked - now to force it you may need to move those areas where the oil and gas is, where it's the main trade.
The sub-sea work is great - try Oceaneering, Woodmac, and other specialty companies.
The other part is the same industry is the pipeline business - both on and offshore - look at Bechtel.
One thing to note is that with time all companies will look to do the work with robots - especially for deep sea work - this to be more efficient and reduce safety and other risks - but then you could get into that industry as a robot controller - all they are is an extension of you.
Food luck - do for it!
The military track is a good one - however you may be pushed into another career based on their needs - so benefits and drawbacks.
I was in Oil & Gas for many years and welders were always on site - either building sites, doing modifications or repair and maintenance. Most oil companies especially the big ones do not employ them directly - they are employed by the big contractors, the specialists.
Look at companies like KBR, Black and Veach and the big engineering firms - and work applications aggressively with them - be persistent and you will get picked - now to force it you may need to move those areas where the oil and gas is, where it's the main trade.
The sub-sea work is great - try Oceaneering, Woodmac, and other specialty companies.
The other part is the same industry is the pipeline business - both on and offshore - look at Bechtel.
One thing to note is that with time all companies will look to do the work with robots - especially for deep sea work - this to be more efficient and reduce safety and other risks - but then you could get into that industry as a robot controller - all they are is an extension of you.
Food luck - do for it!
Your advice was so helpful!
John
Eileen Stroud-Annitsakis
digital marketing
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New York, New York
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Eileen’s Answer
Welding is an excellent trade and in high demand. Go for it! There are times where what I was doing was meaningful to me =- and times where it was not - the former is totally better than the latter, but one needs to be prepared and deal with those times that are not meaningful.
I am really grateful you took the time to answer this question.
John
Munleen Soni
Doctor/Surgeon
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Portland, Oregon
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Munleen’s Answer
Absolutely John! What you do SHOULD be PURPOSEFUL and thus meaningful to you and others! That is my personal coaching lesson to clients - but what that may look like changes over time - which is a beneficial thing. Why? Take welding for example - you're talking about a very laborious, consumptive action that from my limited experience working on welders is that they can only sustain such a risky job for a short duration.
At some point - I would ask yourself why it is you want to be a welder? Is it just for money? - I speak from experience in that I chose to walk away from a "lucrative" career to pursue my passion which has also taken a toll but my heart is still intact!
It also seems like you might want to find a person you trust to help you decipher through your "confusion" (do NOT mean that in a derogatory way!) quite the opposite - it's a good thing to have foresight, such as you're doing welding for money - but is that truly why? To join the military doesn't require tuition (at least not in my time!) - in fact you also get compensated; likewise it appears as though you're then fast-forwarding into working within the private sector, like a contractor?
First off - as much as as we are socialized by the anxious forces around us to go go go and somehow just know what that trajectory will be - here's the actuality - there is only but the present and unknown. Seriously! It's been a real challenge to hear - but! I will say it does pay off if you do it the optimal way - which is to learn how to develop a skillfull mind in those moments where it appears you are not doing anything.. - if you need a better explanation please do not hesitate to ask me! Likewise if you feel comfortable working through a gameplan with me I am here to serve!
In short - 1) Recommend using this to help develop your inner voice "intuition" to help you discern when it's time to ditch a situation.
2) Research! - Start by asking around - and don't rely on friends literally around you - go to forums. challenge yourself to seek answers to questions about the difference between military vs private employment etc
3) Lastly - did you take the ASVAB? That would also help determine if you're in fact going only to the Navy...
I hope this helped! If it didn't please let me know how I may improve.
At some point - I would ask yourself why it is you want to be a welder? Is it just for money? - I speak from experience in that I chose to walk away from a "lucrative" career to pursue my passion which has also taken a toll but my heart is still intact!
It also seems like you might want to find a person you trust to help you decipher through your "confusion" (do NOT mean that in a derogatory way!) quite the opposite - it's a good thing to have foresight, such as you're doing welding for money - but is that truly why? To join the military doesn't require tuition (at least not in my time!) - in fact you also get compensated; likewise it appears as though you're then fast-forwarding into working within the private sector, like a contractor?
First off - as much as as we are socialized by the anxious forces around us to go go go and somehow just know what that trajectory will be - here's the actuality - there is only but the present and unknown. Seriously! It's been a real challenge to hear - but! I will say it does pay off if you do it the optimal way - which is to learn how to develop a skillfull mind in those moments where it appears you are not doing anything.. - if you need a better explanation please do not hesitate to ask me! Likewise if you feel comfortable working through a gameplan with me I am here to serve!
In short - 1) Recommend using this to help develop your inner voice "intuition" to help you discern when it's time to ditch a situation.
2) Research! - Start by asking around - and don't rely on friends literally around you - go to forums. challenge yourself to seek answers to questions about the difference between military vs private employment etc
3) Lastly - did you take the ASVAB? That would also help determine if you're in fact going only to the Navy...
I hope this helped! If it didn't please let me know how I may improve.
Your advice was so helpful!
John
Shirley Keohane
Real Estate Specialist
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Phoenix, Arizona
Updated
Shirley’s Answer
Research is your best friend and with that comes knowledge and contentment. Knowledge is power. It is the best tool in your toolbox.
You would be surprised how many people love to share their skills with someone who wants to learn.
There are several avenues for you to investigate...
Reach out to your local community. Go to your local Schools and volunteer to assist a teacher, and get sponsored into an internship for welders.
Go the the recruiting office and interview someone,(not the recruiter) in the military about your choices. By getting information from people who live the career everyday. Understand the challenges and the rewards. Try to get permission to "buddy" with an experienced diver(Get your certification first)
Determine which field of underwater welding you may want to go into.
Follow your heart. Let your instincts and your desire drive you!
Good Luck! Shirley
You would be surprised how many people love to share their skills with someone who wants to learn.
There are several avenues for you to investigate...
Reach out to your local community. Go to your local Schools and volunteer to assist a teacher, and get sponsored into an internship for welders.
Go the the recruiting office and interview someone,(not the recruiter) in the military about your choices. By getting information from people who live the career everyday. Understand the challenges and the rewards. Try to get permission to "buddy" with an experienced diver(Get your certification first)
Determine which field of underwater welding you may want to go into.
Follow your heart. Let your instincts and your desire drive you!
Good Luck! Shirley
Richard J (Rich) Tedesco
Program Management
37
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Rolesville
Updated
Richard J (Rich)’s Answer
Beside serving your Country - joining the military in the career you are interested in provides you an opportunity to gain experience in a controlled environment. The key will be, if you pursue the military option, is whether that opportunity to be a Navy Diver is available. Being a Navy Diver is one of the most challenging fields in the military and a long journey. But many before you have achieved that goal - so nothing says you cannot achieve it either. Then, no matter how long you stay in the military - you have the experience to carry on in the private sector and you will be more marketable
Now, if you have an opportunity or a path on the private sector - that would be a way to go - but it is all about finding a way into the business. And, I agree, it is not getting a career so dangerous for the money - it is about the passion and the willingness to put yourself in that situation to serve your country or others in the business world.
Seize whatever opportunity that will help you begin and grow within your passion.
Now, if you have an opportunity or a path on the private sector - that would be a way to go - but it is all about finding a way into the business. And, I agree, it is not getting a career so dangerous for the money - it is about the passion and the willingness to put yourself in that situation to serve your country or others in the business world.
Seize whatever opportunity that will help you begin and grow within your passion.
Thanks for your encouragement!
John
Tommy Myers
Technical Support
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Atlanta, Georgia
Updated
Tommy’s Answer
I think there is something incredibly valuable about doing work that you can find meaning in. I also believe that not every job or role you have throughout your time working - has to be in service of your ultimate purpose. There are some jobs that can serve as a springboard to something you're really passionate about. I personally have worked in fields where I cared deeply about the work, but doing the work every day removed some of the luster. As long as you continue to work towards finding a way to fulfill yourself outside of your job, you can find meaning in any work you do. Hope this helps!
I appreciate you taking the time to answer this.
John
James Constantine Frangos
Consultant Dietitian & Software Developer since 1972 => Nutrition Education => Health & Longevity => Self-Actualization.
6175
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Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia
Updated
James Constantine’s Answer
Hi John!
ME:-
Let's get my opinion on what I do as a computer programmer (52 years), nutritionist (48 years) and dietitian (35 years). First of all I was going to be an astronomer. Then my Uncle died of a massive coronary at 38 years of age. This affected me emotionally. Like what could I do? Then his old academic supervisor biochemistry Professor Colin Masters comes to our university to lecture.
Obviously the reason why I became a dietitian-nutritionist was what happened to my relatives. Personally I like giving people advice to alleviate illnesses. My specialty is using natural compounds like vitamins and minerals to treat diseases. For almost half a century, I have worked with medical doctors that use nutrients to restore people to health.
AI:-
Mapping Your Journey to Underwater Welding
To chart your career goals in underwater welding, you need to weigh several factors, such as training avenues, industry standards, and possible career trajectories. Here's a comprehensive guide to your choices post your Job Corps training.
1. Securing Your Welding Certification
Securing a G6 certification is a key achievement in your welding career. This certification testifies to your advanced abilities and expertise in welding techniques. It's vital to build a strong base in different welding processes (like MIG, TIG, and stick welding) before advancing to specialized underwater welding training.
2. Delving into Underwater Welding Training
Once you've earned your G6 certification, the subsequent step is to undertake specialized training in underwater welding. This usually means joining a commercial diving school that caters specifically to underwater welders. These programs often comprise:
Diving Certification: You'll need to secure a diving certification from bodies like the Association of Diving Contractors International (ADCI) or the National Association of Underwater Instructors (NAUI).
Underwater Welding Training: Opt for programs that offer practical experience with underwater welding methods and safety guidelines.
Additional Certifications: Think about acquiring certifications linked to hyperbaric welding and other specialized areas pertinent to underwater work.
3. Military vs. Private Sector Paths
You've highlighted two potential routes: enlisting in the military as a Navy Diver or stepping straight into the private sector. Here's an evaluation of both options:
Military Service (Navy Diver):
Becoming a Navy diver can offer comprehensive training and experience in a range of diving operations, including underwater welding.
The military often funds education and offers valuable perks like health care and retirement schemes.
However, military service demands dedication and may necessitate deployment away from home.
Private Sector Entry:
You can step into the private sector directly after finishing your training without military service.
Numerous companies recruit certified divers with specialized abilities for roles on offshore oil rigs or harbor upkeep projects.
Networking within industry groups and attending job fairs can assist you in connecting with potential employers.
4. Career Opportunities in Underwater Welding
Underwater welders are sought after due to their unique skill set. The following sectors frequently employ underwater welders:
Oil and Gas Industry: Offshore oil platforms need skilled divers for maintenance and repair duties.
Marine Construction: Projects involving bridges, docks, or piers often necessitate underwater welding services.
Shipbuilding and Repair: Shipyards regularly employ divers for repairs beneath the waterline.
5. Conclusion: Making Your Choice
In the end, your decision to pursue military service or step into the private sector should align with your personal objectives, lifestyle choices, and financial considerations. Researching various commercial diving schools, conversing with professionals in the field, and assessing job opportunities will aid you in making an informed decision about your future career path.
In a nutshell, both military service and direct entry into the private sector are feasible routes post your Job Corps training and securing necessary certifications.
Top 3 Credible Sources Used:
1. Association of Diving Contractors International (ADCI)
The ADCI sets standards for commercial diving operations and provides resources on training programs for divers seeking certifications relevant to underwater welding.
2. U.S. Navy Recruiting Command
This source provides details about becoming a Navy Diver, including required qualifications, training procedures, and benefits tied to military service.
3. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS)
The BLS provides extensive data on job prospects for welders, including those specializing in underwater welding. It offers insights into salary brackets and employment trends within this field.
Confidence in the accuracy of the answer: 95%
Stay Blessed!
JC.
ME:-
Let's get my opinion on what I do as a computer programmer (52 years), nutritionist (48 years) and dietitian (35 years). First of all I was going to be an astronomer. Then my Uncle died of a massive coronary at 38 years of age. This affected me emotionally. Like what could I do? Then his old academic supervisor biochemistry Professor Colin Masters comes to our university to lecture.
Obviously the reason why I became a dietitian-nutritionist was what happened to my relatives. Personally I like giving people advice to alleviate illnesses. My specialty is using natural compounds like vitamins and minerals to treat diseases. For almost half a century, I have worked with medical doctors that use nutrients to restore people to health.
AI:-
Mapping Your Journey to Underwater Welding
To chart your career goals in underwater welding, you need to weigh several factors, such as training avenues, industry standards, and possible career trajectories. Here's a comprehensive guide to your choices post your Job Corps training.
1. Securing Your Welding Certification
Securing a G6 certification is a key achievement in your welding career. This certification testifies to your advanced abilities and expertise in welding techniques. It's vital to build a strong base in different welding processes (like MIG, TIG, and stick welding) before advancing to specialized underwater welding training.
2. Delving into Underwater Welding Training
Once you've earned your G6 certification, the subsequent step is to undertake specialized training in underwater welding. This usually means joining a commercial diving school that caters specifically to underwater welders. These programs often comprise:
Diving Certification: You'll need to secure a diving certification from bodies like the Association of Diving Contractors International (ADCI) or the National Association of Underwater Instructors (NAUI).
Underwater Welding Training: Opt for programs that offer practical experience with underwater welding methods and safety guidelines.
Additional Certifications: Think about acquiring certifications linked to hyperbaric welding and other specialized areas pertinent to underwater work.
3. Military vs. Private Sector Paths
You've highlighted two potential routes: enlisting in the military as a Navy Diver or stepping straight into the private sector. Here's an evaluation of both options:
Military Service (Navy Diver):
Becoming a Navy diver can offer comprehensive training and experience in a range of diving operations, including underwater welding.
The military often funds education and offers valuable perks like health care and retirement schemes.
However, military service demands dedication and may necessitate deployment away from home.
Private Sector Entry:
You can step into the private sector directly after finishing your training without military service.
Numerous companies recruit certified divers with specialized abilities for roles on offshore oil rigs or harbor upkeep projects.
Networking within industry groups and attending job fairs can assist you in connecting with potential employers.
4. Career Opportunities in Underwater Welding
Underwater welders are sought after due to their unique skill set. The following sectors frequently employ underwater welders:
Oil and Gas Industry: Offshore oil platforms need skilled divers for maintenance and repair duties.
Marine Construction: Projects involving bridges, docks, or piers often necessitate underwater welding services.
Shipbuilding and Repair: Shipyards regularly employ divers for repairs beneath the waterline.
5. Conclusion: Making Your Choice
In the end, your decision to pursue military service or step into the private sector should align with your personal objectives, lifestyle choices, and financial considerations. Researching various commercial diving schools, conversing with professionals in the field, and assessing job opportunities will aid you in making an informed decision about your future career path.
In a nutshell, both military service and direct entry into the private sector are feasible routes post your Job Corps training and securing necessary certifications.
Top 3 Credible Sources Used:
1. Association of Diving Contractors International (ADCI)
The ADCI sets standards for commercial diving operations and provides resources on training programs for divers seeking certifications relevant to underwater welding.
2. U.S. Navy Recruiting Command
This source provides details about becoming a Navy Diver, including required qualifications, training procedures, and benefits tied to military service.
3. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS)
The BLS provides extensive data on job prospects for welders, including those specializing in underwater welding. It offers insights into salary brackets and employment trends within this field.
Confidence in the accuracy of the answer: 95%
Stay Blessed!
JC.